To All the Mayoi Neko Overrun Haters

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*WARNING* If you are an anime snob who gets off on finding fault in everything this post is for you. It will probably piss you off *YOU’VE BEEN WARNED*

So what’s the deal with all the Mayoi Neko Overrun hate? Yeah sure it has fanservice but if you hadn’t noticed almost every anime that comes out nowadays (except maybe K-On) has its fanservice moments. cheap ampicilllin So right now I’ve been reading two things: One, the anime has too little fanservice, or Two, the anime has too much fanservice *facepalm*. I guess you really have to tread carefully order online tabs in anime these days. There’s apparently a fanservice ratio you have to meet. order cheap pills Either the show is as chaste as Queen Elizabeth (Oh man that’s an old joke, I need to update my repertoire) or it’s downright ecchi like Kiss X Sis (there we go). Yes, you must think I’m the pot calling the kettle black right now, but honestly I think the anime snobs need to give themselves a good slap on the face for ignoring a show with a little fanservice. Did we care when Major Motoko wore incredibly revealing clothing for most of the first season? I would hope not. It basically comes down to “I don’t care what they put in it doxycycline weight loss acomplia buy online as long as the show main focus is trying to deliver a story”. Shows that concentrate purely on fanservice rarely find time to do this, but Mayoi Neko Overrun is not concentrating purely on fanservice. It’s very clear that each episode has an actual plot *gasp* and that they’re using a relationship sub structure that is not typical of its median. This isn’t the story of guy who has a bunch of relationships with cute girls; it’s the story of forming a family with anyone and everyone.

The OP is probably the worst thing I’ve ever heard, but that’s the way it goes some times. Not every opening can be a Bouken Desho Desho or even a Perfect Square Complete. Sometimes Anime studios miss (case and point KyoAni and Endless Eight). Should you reject an entire show because the OP is bad? I probably would have missed Samurai Champloo if I thought that way.

There are valid reasons for disliking this show, but please don’t  point to one panty shot and think you know everything because you know one plot formula. If it bores you because the hero is extremely laid back, that’s fine. If you just don’t care because everyone is too nice, that’s fine too. If you really just hate the way Yuka Higuchi voice acts I can’t blame you at all (There are people who don’t like Aya Hirano and Emiri Katou [the latter of which I just don’t get at all]).

I realize reviews are opinions, but as anime connoisseurs please realize that you have the ability to influence the bandwagon that people will probably join (or flame). Yeah you can pull out a couple examples of what you’re trying to prove, but you could probably pull out twenty from your favorite anime ever too (and if you can’t I sure can). Please don’t label a show that actually is trying to tell a story as something that is only fanservice inspired. Some shows are, but this one isn’t so either actually pay attention or just say that you don’t get it, because you don’t, so don’t try.

Thank you, have a nice day, and maybe if you work a little harder on finding something the writer/director does well you’ll be a little happier.


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6 Comments

  1. Dabookman posted on April 16, 2010 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    I should like to say something intelligent right now, but all I can think of is: “Here! Here!” Well said old chum.

  2. descent posted on April 16, 2010 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Haha, I see your rather frustrated Dustin. As for myself I said I would give this show another chance and I did, liked it a decent amount more. While I feel your frustrations are legitimate, I too like plenty of shows with fanservice in them for other reasons, all I maintain is the first episode didn’t really make this show seem any good.

    I liked the developments in Episode 2 quite a bit more. Nozomi is pretty interesting and the Fumino/Takumi dynamic is pretty cool. Anime Chise still hasn’t grown on me. But I guess I’ll be watching this for the rest of the season.

    Also, watched Haruhi last night. Mind = blown, don’t even know what to say, I’ll have some kind of post on it later.

    Take care.

  3. Jason "moofang" posted on April 16, 2010 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Oh my, the negative reviews out there must go pretty far to get you this angry.

    I think the show’s got something going, though I do have some mostly production-related gripes quite unrelated to fanservice. I had thought the fanservice (at least in ep1) was in fact pretty minimal for a successor to to love ru :P

  4. Dustin posted on April 16, 2010 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    @Dabookman

    Thanks

    @Descent and Jason

    Sorry guys, I was already in a pretty bad mood when I got home and reading another arrogant (thoughtless) review just kind of pushed me over the edge. This post isn’t really even about Mayoi Neko Overrun it’s about how we tend to categorize and stereotype works in general.

    For instance imagine we took the Grapes of Wrath, the Old Man and the Sea, and One Flew over the cuckoos nest and labeled all of them as a Jesus book. “Ope, don’t need to give this a chance because I already know it has a jesus figure in it”. It’s the same old problem I had with English teachers only being open to one interpretation of a book. Even if the author intends something what you get from the book or series is yours. However, looking at one shot from a series and thinking you know everything about it better than the writer? Its kind of atrocious, I guess I feel like the fans of Code Geass who were mad about the “Train wreck” label. Code Geass is one of the most memorable shows of the last decade and is hardly deserved of such a horrible name. It did a lot of stuff really well yet “Train Wreck” sprung from every mouth of those who read Derailed by Darry. Jason Miao is a good guy and a much better blogger than me in many regards, but people take what he says a little too seriously. He’s informed and has a right to the opinions he has, but at the same time his word is not law that dictates what a series is and isn’t. Don’t join band wagons: Think for yourself about what the writer is trying to say and then try to communicate that.

    Jason “moofang” you are one of the best people I know in this regard. You try to find value in shows I tend to toss aside or find fault in so I can do naught but commend you :). I haven’t read enough of your posts yet descent to say the same unfortunately, hopefully soon though.

    With regards to Mayoi Neko Overrun. Taste and “badness” aside I think it’s fair to say at this point that everyone who has seen the first episode realizes it will probably get better. I’m going to play this for a bit so maybe I can illuminate some of the intent of the author:

    He wanted to introduce characters and plot quickly. How do you do such a thing? Easy, you cast them in stock roles and situations to quickly adjust your viewer to the general feel and then you begin the development. Yes, as Ramen Poodle said, you can cast Fumino as the most text book of text book Tsunderes. What’s not mentioned is the willingness of Mayoi Neko Overrun to move on from there (most shows or series never do). I also would compare the totality of the show to people calling a rhombus a square because the edges are the same length, but what they’re missing is the internal structure is completely different. I’m not saying that you have to be adept enough to pick out the subtleties of relationship structures, BUT you should also be able to identify the need for fanservice elements. The kind of relationship dynamics they’re trying to develop will take more than one episode and thusly they have to keep you involved enough in the story to stick it out for two or three episodes. They did this badly, but if they didn’t sexualize their female cast a little bit it’s very possible the writer wouldn’t have been able to tell this story at all. It’s a sad fact that unless you have the name KEY or are touting a slice of life story (or you’re KyoAni) you can’t really get away with not having fanservice in todays anime. Both the manga and the anime are based off light novels so it’s really only a spiritual successor to To Love-Ru. It’s not the same at all. I’m sure most people will pick up that it’s not typical soon (assuming the animators don’t blow up the series like they did do to To Love-Ru), however I do think that we as bloggers should be able to identify some of these things earlier on (even if we don’t particularly like the series). Another good motto to live by is that wonderful witicism “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Silence speaks much louder than any criticism and it doesn’t make one look like a tool at the same time if said person is missing something. (Or say “Hey, this anime is doing this, this, and this which is pretty cool and different but for some reason I just don’t like it at all. If you like this show that’s great, but I need something else before my boat starts floating”).

    I am now officially done dolling out angry blogging advice that neither of you really need!

  5. anon posted on May 19, 2010 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    fanservice isn’t over-powering for this kind of show. The problem of this show is that it is low budget and you can tell its well detailed, clips are reused (episode 3, they play pin-pong for a whole 2min (10% of the episode) which was completely unnecessary) I expected this show to be better then this actually. although the latest episode (7) is pretty good compared to rest of the episodes. again, not a hater of the show, just expected to be better.

  6. Dustin posted on May 20, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Part of the rapid change in animation has to do with the show having a new director for every episode. The particular 2 minute ping pong reuse was actually one of my favorite moments. That director just made something hilarious and showed a completely different way for animation to be used. I do wish we could stick a little bit more with the story, but directors shouldn’t be afraid of trying out new things either. The problem of course with the new directors every week though is that just when you find out you like one he won’t be back next week. It can also create some truly stupid episodes as demonstrated by some I’m sure you can pick out. I personally liked the hot springs episode for its sheer drive at doing things a different way. However, there were some negatives that came with it too.

    I encourage you to take the show on an episode by episode basis given the previous assertions and not take it as a whole. Unfortunately a unified dream of how it should go is impossible so what else can we really do. All of that said, it’s certainly not a show that should be labeled into a particular category and disregarded.

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